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What is Moore's Law?

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tomatoma

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Some people argue that Moore's law is an economic trap, and I was very skeptical.

It's true that Moore's law is not just about technical aspects...
Still, I think the original claims of Moore's Law are technical.
I think that economic things are things that are combined with other sizes of economy. How about that?

For example, I've seen arguing that Apple understands Moore's law the most, or ARM has moved Moore's laws forward....
I couldn't understand it because it didn't make sense

Maybe that's the case when it comes to mass production, but I think it's a different direction from Moore's law.

We are waiting for your opinion
 
tomatoma said:
Some people argue that Moore's law is an economic trap, and I was very skeptical.

It's true that Moore's law is not just about technical aspects...
Still, I think the original claims of Moore's Law are technical.
I think that economic things are things that are combined with other sizes of economy. How about that?

For example, I've seen arguing that Apple understands Moore's law the most, or ARM has moved Moore's laws forward....
I couldn't understand it because it didn't make sense

Maybe that's the case when it comes to mass production, but I think it's a different direction from Moore's law.

We are waiting for your opinion
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This kind of It was the first time I've seen a claim about Moore's law.
I couldn't believe my eyes
 
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tomatoma said:
This kind of It was the first time I've seen a claim about Moore's law.
I couldn't believe my eyes
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Moore’s Law Wiki - Semiwiki

Overview Moore’s Law is an empirical observation stating that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles approximately every two years, leading to exponential improvements in computing performance, efficiency, and cost per function. It has been a guiding principle for the semiconductor...
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In my interpretation, I feel that Moore's law has become something that has many meanings over time.

Moore's laws are by no means a single company being a leader. At least I think the semiconductor industry itself is pulling the laws of Moore.

After all, the above-mentioned claim that I saw was quite strange and confusing.
 
Come to think of it, in the paper of Moore, the origin that became the law of Moore, foreseen the occurrence of chiplets.

It is in the article of Gordon Moore published on April 19, 1965, Vol.38, No. 8, Electronics.
 
Moore's Law is more important than most people believe.
The key is to align the whole industry in synchronizing technological development.
Materials, EDA tools, pricing, performance, cost, marketing, and etc all have a marketing expection.
It's very much like a free-and-rough future index.
 
DanX said:
Moore's Law is more important than most people believe.
The key is to align the whole industry in synchronizing technological development.
Materials, EDA tools, pricing, performance, cost, marketing, and etc all have a marketing expection.
It's very much like a free-and-rough future index.
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except that future Index has slowed down if there is only TSMC left. If Intel get's out i would mark it as the end of Moore's law
 
On the cost structure - wikipedia has an interesting take, calling it "Moore's Second Law" (i.e. there is a trap..) :

Rock's law or Moore's second law, named for Arthur Rock or Gordon Moore, says that the cost of a semiconductor chipfabrication plant doubles every four years.[1] As of 2015, the price had reached about 14 billion US dollars.[2]

Rock's law can be seen as the economic flip side to Moore's (first) law – that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles every two years.

...

Here's some more info from.. The Moore's Law company:
newsroom.intel.com

Press Kit: Moore’s Law

The past, present and future of Gordon Moore’s golden rule for the semiconductor industry.
newsroom.intel.com newsroom.intel.com
 
staf said:
There is also another law: every exponential technology innovation will stop at a certain point. This can be seen as a physical law but most of the time is an econimical law.
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Also called Diminishing Returns
Already focusing on the scaling of the transistor itself has less advantages.
 
Xebec said:
On the cost structure - wikipedia has an interesting take, calling it "Moore's Second Law" (i.e. there is a trap..) :

Rock's law or Moore's second law, named for Arthur Rock or Gordon Moore, says that the cost of a semiconductor chipfabrication plant doubles every four years.[1] As of 2015, the price had reached about 14 billion US dollars.[2]

Rock's law can be seen as the economic flip side to Moore's (first) law – that the number of transistors in a dense integrated circuit doubles every two years.

...

Here's some more info from.. The Moore's Law company:
newsroom.intel.com

Press Kit: Moore’s Law

The past, present and future of Gordon Moore’s golden rule for the semiconductor industry.
newsroom.intel.com newsroom.intel.com
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But each fab has its own unique technologies, equipment, products, capabilities, and capacity. Is it really meaningful to compare their build-up costs to match the "Moore's Second Law"?
 
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