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    Automata, More Questions than Answers, Intel? MU?

    I found this take on Automata involving Intel, Micron and Natural Intelligence Semiconductor more than interesting. Why the spin off? Why phase change memory? Who owns what? Is this a dead technology, a questionable one and does the technology hold real promise. This is an enigma to me. Could TSM be planning a similar technology with other partners using Crossbar memory? Everything is creating more questions than answers. I hope the link below will help others give me some ideas or answers. All comments and thoughts welcome. One question is who actually owns what?

    Micron And Intel: The AI And Security Play Of The Century - Micron Technology Inc. (NASDAQ:MU) | Seeking Alpha

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    There are some misassumptions in the article.

    Anyway, remember 3DXpoint hype few years ago? I found it very similar. Bright promises, lot of questions, no clear explanations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Hanson View Post
    I found this take on Automata involving Intel, Micron and Natural Intelligence Semiconductor more than interesting. Why the spin off? Why phase change memory? Who owns what? Is this a dead technology, a questionable one and does the technology hold real promise. This is an enigma to me. Could TSM be planning a similar technology with other partners using Crossbar memory? Everything is creating more questions than answers. I hope the link below will help others give me some ideas or answers. All comments and thoughts welcome. One question is who actually owns what?

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    Q: Why the spinoff?
    A: Because Micron is a memory design company, and processors are not essential to their focus or mission.

    Q: Why phase change memory?
    A: The Automata processor has nothing to o with Phase Change Memory. PCM was first created in the 1960s, and some believe that Intel/Micron 3DxPoint is really just another name for PCM. Remember how only Intel calls FinFET transistor TriGate? Intel prefers to obfuscate their technology terms so that you cannot compare them to anything else on the planet, pure marketing-driven naming conventions. Many companies dabble in PCM. Lots of technical challenges to make this PCM technology reliable, scalable and profitable.

    Q: Crossbar memory?
    A: There's a startup company named Crossbar that started to talk about their RRAM (Resistive RAM) back in 2010. HP called it Memristor. Yole Development writes reports on emerging memory markets.

    Q: TSMC and crossbar?
    A: Sure, if a company like Apple asks for it, so far they haven't asked for it.

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    I know TSM has worked on Crossbar for years from press releases from TSM. This was over four years ago. In fact this was my first question when I first met Daniel Nenni. The TSM rep there said he knew nothing, but this is the standard TSM line on many things.

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    SMIC and Crossbar, Inc. announced a partnership in March 2016 for a trailing-edge 40nm process node.

    Crossbar, Inc. did fab a test chip at TSMC back in 2013.

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